Jun 17, 2025 · 51 min
What does it really take to feel safe enough to speak up at work? In this powerful episode of More Than a Lumpy Jumper, we dive into psychological safety - what it is, why it matters, and what happens when it’s missing. Joining Bobby are two brilliant guests: Ali Spooner and Naomi Withers, who bring honesty, humour, and real-life insight from lived experience, psychology, leadership, and loss. From people-pleasing to power dynamics, team trust to trauma triggers, this conversation doesn’t shy away from the messy stuff. If you've ever sat in a meeting biting your tongue, or wondered whether you’re the only one feeling unsafe, this one’s for you. Ali Spooner | LinkedIn Naomi (Ordinary 🚫) Withers | LinkedIn David Rock's SCARF Model: Social Threats in the World of Work - The World of Work Project The Fearless Organization Summary - Amy Edmondson | 12min Blog